Solid Waste and Recycling Transfer Station

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  1. We want to know what you think. Is it important to you for the City to create a Solid Waste Transfer Station and Environmental Business Park? Let us know.
  2. Five parcels have been identified as potential sites. Which site do you think would be best and why?
  3. What types of services would you like to see offered at a Solid Waste Transfer Station and Environmental Business Park?
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In addition to Solid Waste services that come to your driveway each week, what if you had a place inside the City of North Port where you could take your own garbage, recycling, yard waste, and more? Currently, the City of North Port's Solid Waste trucks must drive outside the City's limits to a disposal site. On collection days, each City garbage truck travels 48 miles (which takes an average of 66 minutes) and each City recycling truck travels 35 miles (which takes an average of 54 minutes).

A Solid Waste Transfer Station and Environmental Business Park inside the City limits would cut down on travel time, save on gas, and create less maintenance on vehicles. An initial feasibility study shows this could create cost savings for the City of North Port. (Check out the agenda summary, PowerPoint presentation, and video from the June 29, 2012 City Commission workshop.)

The concept of an Environmental Business Park would create an associated commercial center in the same area of the Solid Waste Transfer Station for businesses that promote sustainability and focus on the environmental industry. For instance, a re-use store, a glass recycling business, or other type of business devoted to a green economy. This Environmental Business Park could create an economic incentive to attract these types of businesses to North Port and provide additional jobs.

We want to know what you think. Is it important to you for the City to create a Solid Waste Transfer Station and Environmental Business Park? Let us know.

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anthony treadwell (edit answer)
Hello, With regards to the possible sites for solid waste, why are they only around one area!!! We understand Northport is a large area, is Toledo Blade blvd the only option and why, why not use land on the other side of the 75, it would effect less people, has the wind been considered, it would blow down Toledo towards more homes, would locating a site near food outlets be a good idea for buisness.

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Imrisek (edit answer)
I agree with Anthony Treadwell 100%.

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anthony treadwell (edit answer)
Please tell anybody that this might effect, some people might like the idea.

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Tricia Christmas (edit answer)
Not much of a choice. They are all with in about a mile of each other. Why isn't their a site east of I-75???? I don't believe Publix or the local restaurants would want that too close. We have Toledo Blade Elementary and Imagine schools in this radius. How will this affect them? Will it cause more air pollutants thus affecting their allergies? What about the economic status of our houses in the area suggested. Because, it is ONLY one area being affected! You need to rethink this!!!!!

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anthony treadwell (edit answer)
Tricia, nobody know about this, only 6 homeowner were at the meeting and nobody from the local schools or shops, why is this not in the newspaper, by the way no area other than those on Toledo Blade blvd will be considered, we only have 8 more days then the city will start the next process

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anthony treadwell (edit answer)
Do any of these schools know!!!

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Dan Klee (edit answer)
In my opinion, Price and Toledo Blade would be the worst pick of the 5. Think most of us are looking for a combination Shopping Center/Multiple Restaurant Mall type area in that location. I agree with most others that you need to be looking East of I-75 or even way out Price closer to the Port Charlotte line or even out east of 75 off of Raintree where their is very little if any existing development. Aren't there areas East of 75 that are already zoned for this type of venture? I'm all for what you are trying to accomplish but think you need to identify a few more potential sites other than the 5 currently proposed.

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anthony treadwell (edit answer)
The 5 sites were short listed, I wish more people had gone to the Tueday meeting to understand the facts about this, we only have 8 days before the city move to the next stage.

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Dan Klee (edit answer)
I had no idea of this whole scenario or what the city was trying to do until I got the email referring me here, No clue that there was a meeting regarding this. I like most of you I would assume, still work full time, I'm gone at 7:30 AM and don't usually get home until 6PM so making one of these meetings even if we knew about it would be near impossible. Perhaps the low attendance at the meeting was due to others in the same situation. I'm pretty sure you can email the commissioners from the city's website which I plan to do and express my displeasure to them via that format. Really don't want this shoved down our throats.

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JEANNIE M (edit answer)
I also believe that areas north of I-75 should be looked at. Price & Toledo Blade & Price & N. Cranberry Blvd would be awful.

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anthony treadwell (edit answer)
The city have already reduced the possible sites from 20 to 5 last month, in 8 days the next process starts.

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Maureen (edit answer)
While I commend Northport City in endeavouring to manage the waste we produce I consider the sites you have proposed to be wholly unsuitable, short sighted and there was no evidence in the meeting held on the 29th of January that you have considered the short medium and long term effects this will have on existing and future development on and around Toledo Blade. The 5 proposed sites are based around one of only 3 road arteies off the I75, this is where we want hotels, shops, residential properties etc. Site A: Is a prime site for a hotel and highly visible from the I75 and Toledo Blade. Site B: Diagonally opposite shops including food outlets. It's also on a major cross-roads with Price and Toledo Blade. Sites C & D: By your own admission, may deter future investment as it will be visible from the I75, it's also in close proximity to schools. Site E: This is again close to Publix and other food outlets and school. Additionally your predicted cost savings are only pie in the sky, by the time it would be built the market would have fluctuated so much in terms of payback for recyclables, cost of fuel, wages etc. A $200k saving per annum is not significant when you consider the money we taxpayers are going to have to pay to get it going. You describe this as a waste transfer station. At the meeting what you in fact described was a material recycling facility with waste being segregated into waste streams prior to being transferred. This entails waste being tipped onto conveyor belts or similar to be sorted, this then exposes our population to potential dust, fumes, odours, noise etc. You also said to be financially viable it must include recycling, so your aim isn't just for it to be for waste transfer. It is highly unlikely that waste will be transferred away on the same day due to the process involved above and even longer over weekends and public holidays therefore increasing the risk of vermin, birds and disease. Taxes will rise but those unfortunate residents who live in the area will see no reduction. You said this at the meeting when asked the question. You use the term Environmental Park, I guess that can conjur up some lovely facility with lots of trees, waterfeatures and wildlife, nothing could be further from the fact. Your intention is to attract similar businesses who can support the station. Interestingly not one member from the City, making these decisions lives near any of the proposed sites. I implore you to reconsider and explore other options. Finally your methods of communication with the people of Northport regarding this is unsatisfactory. The possible locations were only announced a few hours before the meeting, this is unacceptable. In addition this has the potential to have such a large impact I think you should be using for forums of communication other than relying of folk using your website. There are many people who do not know how to use your site and have no access to a computer. Please consider contacting the citizens of Northport either by mail or through the press.  

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Myrna June (edit answer)
Will there be any other options other than Toledo Blade? With 2 exits from 75 the first thing people will see is the City dump. We are very disappointed with the locations that you have proposed to choose from. Sure we need a City dump, however, maybe you can pick on the other side of North Port. How much money is going into this project? How many more millions are going into the decade long Sumter project? We don't EVEN have sidewalks on Cranberry, starting from Toledo Blade to Barry Road while Sumter gets cobble stone! Toledo Blade has so much potential, there's not even a hotel or restaurant for weary travelers, just put a dump there instead, how disappointing.

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anthony treadwell (edit answer)
Only 5 options have come through from 20 location, A dump eventually get full then covered over this will be with us for ever.

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Ken McArdle (edit answer)
While the construction of a waste transfer and recycling center for North Port will certainly be neccessary as we continue to grow as a community, the locations cited don't seem the best choice - even counter productive to near future development. They would also negatively affect property values and quality-of-life for established residential areas. There are a lot of available and easily accessible areas east of I-75 that would not create a negative for residential and commercial growth.

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anthony treadwell (edit answer)
The city plan to re-zone the selected site to Industrial, that might increase growth, but I think not the type we would like,

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Frank Jen (edit answer)
Agree with all those that are saying that it does not make sense to build near the Price Toledo blade area. Build it at the edge of town to allow for business and residential development. Who comes up with these ideas?? Tie in with the Vision NP and the NP economic devlopment groups and see how it works with the long term economic development for these areas. Sounds like this was a 6 sigma effort without a good balanced team represented.

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anthony treadwell (edit answer)
Frank, Two consulants with input from city employes, none of which live near any of the sites, by the way the consultants have been paid 74K the whole project if we re-cycle within the new solid waste site would save over 200K on the 5 million we spend on waste, that after we pay for the site and build, the cost of this is anything between 1.2 and 2.5 million!!!! its actually cheaper to send the dump trucks as they do now to land fill. the saving of 200k was based on waste prices last June, paper and glass has dropped since then so im not 100% sure these saving could happen,

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Luis Mendoza (edit answer)
Anthony, what can we, as residents of this area, do now with the short time left to fight this ridiculous plan. How can we approach Town Hall to voice our collective input on this??? Please advice, we at Cypress Falls just heard about this and a lot of people are upset and willing to move on this. Luis Mendoza - mendlm2@comcast.net

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anthony treadwell (edit answer)
Get back to me ASAP on treaders_tony@hotmail.com

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Judith G. Applestein (edit answer)
The sites proposed are perfectly ridiculous. This area has been designated in the expensive plan that the city contracted for to be high end medical, light technical area for businesses. This sort of waste transfer station is not in keeping with the type of development presently there or what we would hope should come. There are many parts of North Port, including the north side of I75, where there is no development presently which would be more suitable. I strongly object to these proposals and the lack of notice given to residents to attend the last meeting where it was discussed.

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anthony treadwell (edit answer)
Nhe people involved live near any of these sites, I belive everybody should know the facts

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Dan Klee (edit answer)
I had no idea of this whole scenario or what the city was trying to do until I got the email referring me here, No clue that there was a meeting regarding this. I like most of you I would assume, still work full time, I'm gone at 7:30 AM and don't usually get home until 6PM so making one of these meetings even if we knew about it would be near impossible. Perhaps the low attendance at the meeting was due to others in the same situation. I'm pretty sure you can email the commissioners from the city's website which I plan to do and express my displeasure to them via that format. Really don't want this shoved down our throats.

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anthony treadwell (edit answer)
We need to inform people, talk with your friend and ask do they like the idea, this should get the tallking, the head of the City waste belives the homeowner have no problem, read the Sun paper web site search Solid Waste Site.

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Tony Ranciato (edit answer)
I live in the Cypress Falls Community which is part of the Woodlands. The Woodlands is projected to have 5 residential communities complementing the two existing being Cypress Falls and Cedar Grove. This is an area that will serve the City of North Port by offering new homes for future residents. A solid waste facility visible to traffic from either direction of I-75 will not serve to attract people to this area. This is an area the provides potential for growth and new money for the City. We have an elementary school and two middle schools in the area and we surely don't need large trash trucks traveling up and down our roads along with school buses and vehicles transporting children. We also have SMH Emergency Facility on Toledo Blade.which often necessitates ambulance travel to I-75 at the ramp on Toledo Blade. There are plenty of areas of North Port that have the acreage, offers less disruption, and doesn't hinder the future growth of North Port. If we want North Port to be the community that we have envisioned it to become then the City Commissioners need to consider how unsightly and unsafe this facility would be in any of the proposed areas. Let's have the foresight to look toward the future rather than just placing a Solid Waste facility just anywhere where there is vacant space. We all want North Port to grow and prosper and that can only happen by attracting new homeowners to our area. We have the space so let's use it wisely...

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anthony treadwell (edit answer)
Hi Tony, the city plan to re-zone the chosen land to Industrial, only one person attended the meeting from Cypress falls so it sounds like they must like the idea!!!

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Tony Ranciato (edit answer)
Tony, I am a supervisor for the Woodlands CDD and the CDD is not aware of any rezoning for this area.

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anthony treadwell (edit answer)
Hi again, only the chosen site would be re-zoned, this would be needed to meet the requirments of the Solid Waste & and Envionmental Park project, we were told this in the Tuesday meeting. However its the City view they would like to attact other typical business around the site.

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Carl Impastato (edit answer)
The Waste Transfer Station should be located away from any residential area....none of the sites are acceptable

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Carl Impastato (edit answer)
The Waste Transfer Station should be located away from any residential area....none of the sites are acceptable

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anthony treadwell (edit answer)
Yes Carl I agree but the City has already short listed the 5 sites, we need to get more people involved, does anybody know any reporters!!

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Betty and Irwin Brent (edit answer)
We live in Cypress Falls off Toledo Blade and we agree that city dump should not be off I75. What does the Chamber of Commerce feel about this? Usually entrances to cities try to hide these spots as far away from tourists for obvious reasons. Would you stop for a vacation or even overnight where you would be spending money in the community, if you spotted a dump before you applied your breaks??? Think about this North Port! We have so much vacant land with roads going nowhere and you choose this location? Please advertise a forum so that we can help you choose a better location and speak our mind! Betty

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anthony treadwell (edit answer)
We need to get as many people involved, talk to anybody, they must live near this, have children who go to schools near this or use food stores near this.

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Bruce McPhee (edit answer)
I really don't like any of these sites... I live near Toledo Blade and Price and ride my bike around that area extensively. What brought me to North Port was the ability to do that without excessive traffic. I feel that, especially the sites off of Panacea, that would bring in a lot of big vehicles and potential debris. Additionally, with the school, and residential areas around there this would be a big negative. Isn't there somewhere on the other side of 75 that could be used? I like the comment about looking into sharing or leveraging a site with Port Charlotte or other nearby communities.

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anthony treadwell (edit answer)
We only have 8 days before the city close this forum

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anthony treadwell (edit answer)
Please go to http://nearwestside.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/bbc_report_carbondale_final.pdf to see just how badly we can be affected.

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We are also residents of Cypress Falls and I agree that a new location should be found for this "dump". North Port is finally being recognized and this will turn away any future interested ppl from living in the area. But the real issue is no one wants to live nearby something that close. Mr. Treadwell and other ppl who stated their concern have excellent ideas why something like that doesn't belong in those locations.

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Bill Richardson (edit answer)
This is unbelievable. This absolutely does not belong in a residential area. The Woodlands has suffered immensely from the recession. Now as we start to recover, some geniuses have come up with this idea which would crush property values and future development. I urge all to vigorously continue to oppose this. We must get the residential developers involved. Pulte, Benderson, Neal and who ever else will suffer from this travesty. The other day I read about all the positive ideas from 75 through the Toledo Blade corridor, but nothing mentioned about this fiasco that would devastate the future development of this great parcel of real estate

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Robert Wilcox (edit answer)
This is an ill conceived plan at best with a very narrow view of what attracting growth really takes. I think the city has been on a good course for this, don't destroy it with a silly mistake like this to save a few dollars. To bring something like this anywhere near to our homes and shopping, will cost more than any save you will achieve. There doesn't seem to be any real insight here as to what attracts people to an area. I assure you this will kill the growth of this area. I also disagree with moving this anywhere close to I-75 but should certainly be on the other side of it. It should be in an area where there is no population, or even areas planned for population. This should be miles away from any such area. If this can't be done feasbly, and along those guidelines, then you are probably doing what needs to be done as cost affectivley possible. Save our money ! I dont mean to be harsh, but I would go so far as to question the ownership of the areas being considered, and the benefit the owners might realize. Let's make sure these areas are not being selected to the benefit somones personal agenda. This just doesn't make sense to me. Why ! Come on City Planners, how could you even consider putting something like this in those areas ?? !!!

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anthony treadwell (edit answer)
These sites achieved 43 or 44 points, making these 5 into the short list. The point system did not include med or long term effects to anything such as values, investment etc the person heading this plan stated in the Sun Newspaper" homeowners have no concerns", Iim talking with the newspaper on Monday, I dont know any positive feedback, I was at the meeting on Tuesday

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anthony treadwell (edit answer)
Hi Robert, I think its up to us all to write to them and make them see sence, see "Not in my neighborhood" by Drew Winchester Sun Staff Writer

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Richard Janssen (edit answer)
Wht in the world would you the City choose sites that are so close to high density residential areas. With all the land that is available around North Port there has to be better options. Has consideration been given to the other side of I75? I am curious as to if any site is close to the mayor's or city council members houses? Any type of so called recycle center so close to homes, schools, and shopping will bring Seagulls, Rats, Racoons and other unwanted pests into the area. This will all have a negative impact on our property values. Reconsider your choices to areas that have the least amount of impact on the residents of North Port. Being smack dab in the middle of high density residential is unacceptable

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About a month ago I ask what happen to the plans for a hotel/shopping complex at I-75 & Toledo Blade and the answer was we know nothing new, now I know why. With a Solid Waste Transfer Station there no one would want to stop for a overnight stay plus there would be no place for them to stay anyway. What a way to say Welcome To North Port, we have trash but still no place to stay. I agree with all the comments, something stinks when all this seems to being pushed though without options for other sites that make a lot more sense, like the ones mentioned in all the comments. There are thousands of acres vacant in North Port that seem more feasible. I'd still like to know why this is being pushed through so fast without more public notice, not everyone has the time to go to a web site,etc. just to see what's going on.

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anthony treadwell (edit answer)
Hi Jim, None of the people involved in this plan live near the sites, this is FACT I asked them at Tuesdays meeting,

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Ray Finecey (edit answer)
I live in Cypress Falls, in my opinion all 5 site are unacceptable, actually ridiculous to even consider these sites. Put it on the east side of I75 as far away from residentail development as possible or keep trucking it!

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anthony treadwell (edit answer)
Ray im glad the people from Cypress see this as a bad, this is not what the waste Manger said in Sun Newspaper.

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Paul Zetzsche (edit answer)
We are residents of Cypress Falls and none of the proposed sites are acceptable. You can call this a transfer station, but it is really a dump! There is so much land available in North Port. Why near a residential area? When I drive down Toldeo Blade, I always marvel as to the design and landscaping. It is the best road in North Port, a showpiece. But no, you want to have a multitude of garbage trucks pounding the road to bits. I am familiar with recycling centers. They are noisy and dirty. What image does this convey when visitors come off of I-75, exit 179, and see garbage trucks and in essence a dump? Is this the way to enhance the visitation of individuals and future residents? This would have an adverse effect on the development of North Port and property values would decline in the nearby residential areas. I also strongly object to how residents were NOT notified DIRECTLY. It seems to me you are trying to slide this through without the residents knowledge, obviously knowing what an adverse affect this would be on our daily lives.

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anthony treadwell (edit answer)
I asked if the City plan to send any letters out to those near these sites, the answer was NO, I was told the web site works fine. I said with only 5 or 6 homeowner hear thats not true.

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Joan J. Pike (edit answer)
Putting a waste transfer facility near the intersection of Toledo Blade and Interstate 75 is unbelievable short-sighted. This area is just now recovering from the housing market crash of 2007. Developers are finally building again. How about building the waste transfer facility near the home of one of the geniuses who developed this "plan" or one of the commissioners homes. It would be amazing how fast the "plan" would be rejected. The topic of the need for a waste transfer facility should be thoroughly discussed with all affected parties before any decision is made. The Toledo Blade area already has a business park, a middle school, a charter school, 2 elementary schools, an emergency room, two shopping plazas, three is you include Bobcat Village, and another one in the planning stages, how about developing another part of the city with the waste transfer facility.

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anthony treadwell (edit answer)
I think the city have already spent over 10 months on this, its getting near the final part of the process.

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Dan Klee (edit answer)
Anthony, in a previous post I suggested that you or anyone could email the commissioners from the City's Website (all of their email addresses are there) to voice your concerns. I did that because I had no idea what was happening regarding this, and heard back from Ms.Cook who states in brief that no determination by the Commission has been made to date other than to spend the money for the consultants report which the previous Commission approved to have done. Mayor Yates reply in brief states that the Committee has not yet been presented with any potential sites, and that currently a site selection/engineering study is all that is taking place, no money has been spent and no vote has been taken to authorize an expenditure to build a Transfer Station. In addition, the feasibility report done last year does not support it's development. So again, I would urge you to have all the individuals here in this forum to email the commissioners themselves and form an opinion of their own. I found the replies from Ms. Cook and Ms. Yates to be very frank and forthcoming. As I also stated before, any undertaking of this sort should never be located along the Toledo Blade Corridor.

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anthony treadwell (edit answer)
Hi Dan, with regards to your reply below, can I state the following, I have downloaded from the City of Northport web site the first study, it was to build up background information, it is signed by Director Branford for the Public Works Department, its also has the City Managers Initals dated 6/26/12, its states that on the meeting date of 6/29/2012 consultants MSW were paid $17,900 a futher fund of $75k was estimated for futher studies, this bill is actually 74K thats what the people in Tuesdays meeting were told.These facts are on the city web site,

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Beverly Takacs (edit answer)
I am not opposed to having the transfer station, but I do not feel that the locations that have been submitted will be too close to our comnmunities. With all the vacant land East of I-75, I think a better location could be picked. We do not want this near our homes. I am at Bobcat Trail Golf Club and I feel that the locations off Toledo Blade are just too close to the homes and businesses already developed there. What we do need down Toledo Blade are some hotels near I-75. There isn't any from Venice all the way to Kings Hwy. We also do not want this transfer station to reduce our property values or have any smells from the garbage and waste. Thank you.

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anthony treadwell (edit answer)
I am so glad we have some Bobcat Trail people involved, I contacted the HOA & CDD regarding this on Tuesday they have told me it would be e-mailed Thursday or Friday, I again contacted the Chairperson who has said they will inform people today, everyday we loose a day, at the end of next week the city will move to the next stage.

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Maureen says it all. With regard to the Woodlands nearby, didn't the Woodlands developer(s) pay for the majority of the cost for the widening of Toledo Blade. Shouldn't you have notified residents of Bobcat Trail, Lakeside, Woodlands and any other communities nearby IN ADVANCE. WHY such short notice for the first meeting? I also understand that Publix was not notified of the Plan either so no representative from Publix was able to attend the meeting. None of this makes any sense. You have wide open land all over North Port and, in particular, on the other side of 75. The value of property would go down, this transfer station could possibly attract vermin, there are restaurants and a supermarket close to a couple of the proposals not to mention the rumbling of trucks up and down Toledo Blade which would certainly cause wear and tear on the road. As always, the City of North Port is acting irrationally. I am NOT in favor of this transfer station anywhere near Toledo Blade Boulevard. Residents need to respond.

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anthony treadwell (edit answer)
My biggest problem is very few people know about this and the internet is not available to everybody. Does anybody know people who have children going to any school near these possible site, we need people just to find the facts.

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jayne pastula (edit answer)
I am totally against the location being considered for the waste transfer station. I am a resident of Cypress Falls. When I moved in 6 years ago I recognized the potential for community growth. Being off the I-75 exit I as many others invisioned new communities, hotels, condos, parks and shopping. The Toledo Blade corridor, for anyone with forsight, could be a mecca for positive growth. With 105 square miles in North Port I would hope there would be a better solution as to where to locate the waste station. You are doing a great job working on improving the roads, especially Sumter and Toledo Blade the gateways to "Our City". Coco Plum is a showcase of what can be done. Let's keep the positives going and turn the negative (waste site location) into a positive by working hard at trying to find alternatives.

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joe Brown (edit answer)
This is the first time I have been made aware of such a plan. You make it sound as if this is already a done deal and just a matter of which site to pick. If this is such a great idea why not put it near the new city hall complex. Why is it that all the city waste ends up on or very near Toledo Blade? Most of the projects like this that a city goverment cooks up end up costing the taxpayers more rather than less. If you must waste taxpayers money for another green project put it right at the" Welcome to North Port" sign off I-75 and Toledoo Blade...along with a new sign " Turn right for Solid Waste Transfer Dump"

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kathleen michalski (edit answer)
I strongly oppose the selected 5 sites for solid waste. North Port is the fastest growing area in Florida. I have heard of many plans and ideas for the Toledo Blade area-ones that encourage more people to want to reside in our area and ideas to make the area more advantageous to families, such as parks, amusement areas, town hall and recreation facilities. This fast growing area needs and requires this. These are constructive plans. A solid waste plant is a great idea for North Port, but please place it in a strategic location, not one that is highly visible from I75, that will chase the area businesses away and discourage future businesses. Have you considered the area residents? We would not have purchased our homes if we had known a waste plant was going to be our neighbor. I purchased this home because there was a hospital across the street from us on Toledo Blade, shops and grocery stores. There are a couple of schools right here and we have to protect our children. Why would you consider building a waste plant near schools, stores, a hospital and many large residential communities? Surely, as you look over the large area that North Port encompasses, a much better location would be available. I vote for the city center to be built here, not the solid waste site.

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Ken Price (edit answer)
Why wasn't any site considered on east side of I-75 where there is limited development. Plantation and Pancea area is in a CDD Woodlands that is being paid for by resdential units that are being sold there. It seems like the people that have already purchased and are paying for the infrastucture are being ignored by the city staff. We do not want to see our property values to drop or future development of retail space that was planned to be developed to be affected by a waste transfer facility being located here.

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Gail Silkebakken (edit answer)
These locations are too close to new potential shopping areas. Why Toledo Blade and not on the other side of I 75? We are already getting a Bus Depot for the school system off Toledo Blade and Price. Please consider less populated area that is in the middle of North Port - not at one end.

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John Novak (edit answer)
I believe the sites selected for the waste transfer station are all terrible. This is really a dump no matter how you lable it. The last thing that you want at the entrance to our great community is a dump. This type of facility will only serve to bring down the image of this area. I live in Cypress Falls and chose this area for the quiet residential image that we now enjoy. After all we have gone through the last 4 years with homes sales being depressed and builders staying away from this area, the last thing we need is something else to chase the market away. The planning board should understand that this facility must be built far away from schools, businesses and residential areas.

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William N. D'Onofrio (edit answer)
This is addressed to the elected commissioners of our city. Please read these comments carefully. There is no community support for the proposed project. Your voters simply do not buy what you are selling. I also own a home in Dublin, Ohio. Dublin attracts all manner of new businesses such as the finance arm of BMW. If the Dublin counsel supported bringing a recycling center to the city we'd have a new commission by the next election. Please listen to your constituency. No one wants what you're selling. It's not a matter of "where to site it" we do not feel we need it nor do we want it.

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Bill Richardson (edit answer)
Right on !!

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Bill Richardson (edit answer)
I completely agree with the recent post by William N. D'Onofrio. Something is seriously wrong here. No to the plan as it is put forth.

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Elizabeth Raspa (edit answer)
I didn't retire to SERENE, CLEAN North Port, Florida in order to have my home next to a trash dump! All locations are unacceptable and will impact residences, schools and local businesses. Not only will the house values plummet but also the noise/air quality. Go North or East of I-75.

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Luis Mendoza (edit answer)
Way to go Cypress Falls residents... Thank you guys for your input on this all important topic. Don't forget our meeting on Tuesday at the CF Clubhouse at 1:00PM. We must all attend to hear Mr. Treadwell explain his experience & observation at the Town Hall meetings.

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Votem Out (edit answer)
Where do I begin? For years, the city of North Port has announced one new and exciting plan after another to draw in young families. Remember the water park near Sumpter Blvd., or the state-of-the-art little league ball-field east of I-75 off of Toledo Blade, or the sprawling medical research facilities and complex which would support commercial and hotel opportunities? I do. I also remember, shortly after purchasing my home in Lakeside Plantation, all of the promises of growth and prosperity turn instead to higher property taxes and lower property values. Several friends as well as family members have seen their property investments, purchased in part due to my recommendation, lose 20, 30, or even 40% of their value with little chance of ever fully recouping from those inflated prices. Now we must all watch as these elected city officials contemplate placing a CITY DUMP right in our laps! All done just to POSSIBLY save $200K per year. $200K !!!!!! What an insulting slap in the face to ALL residents, business owners, and schools. Is this the best idea they can come up with regarding development of those beautiful parcels of land? What an absolute joke! Haven't the members of this community been through enough? How many of us in Lakeside, Cedar Grove, Woodlands, Bobcat Trail, Cypress Falls and all the surrounding neighborhoods suffered through the property value free-fall in hopes of finally seeing some positive plans for the future, only to see this disgusting proposal by the city. If this measure passes and the city decides that installing a GARBAGE DUMP in a residential area, in view of I-75 for all the world to see, is a step in the right direction then ALL the homeowners in North Port should expect another hit to the value of their homes. Lets not allow THIS proposal, out of all the others that never materialized, be the one to see the light of day.

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William N. D'Onofrio (edit answer)
Your "name tag" says it all. Sometimes the die is cast and all we can do as citizens of North Port, Sarasota County, Florida or this glorious country we all live in is express our wishes on election day. That's what makes this country the greatest place on earth to live; if you don't like the decisions your elected officials make get new elected officials.

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Votem Out (edit answer)
We need to ensure ALL elected officials of NP connected with this study/proposal make "on record" statements related to their positions. All those against this dump deserve our support come election time. Those who support allowing a dump near our homes need to find a new career. Voters will ensure that happens.

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Votem Out (edit answer)
I read somewhere that North Port was the states' largest city with lowest population. To me that meant plenty of room for growth and proper planning. A waste transfer station should not be built within 5 miles of the nearest home, not to mention in people's backyards! Please tell me that this is all one big joke. Incredible.

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Richard Williams (edit answer)
Coments have been requested concerning opinions of a solid waste facility at one of five locations near Toledo Blade. With so much land available to the city in less populated areas, I find it hard to believe that city commissioners would be considering any of the five sites proposed. Millions of dollars have been invested in beautifying Toledo Blade as one of two major access points to the city of North Port. Major residential developments such as Bobcat Trail, The Woodlands and Lakeside Plantation are on or close to Toledo Blade not to mention several schools, commercial centers, medical complexes and dining facilities. Other major developments will occur in the future as a result of these past investments. Placing a solid waste facility anywhere near this area will have a significant negative implact on property values for all that live and work in the area. I implore those who are making the decision, to consider finding a site that will not impact the future growth of this area.

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anthony treadwell (edit answer)
Richard this is not directed at you but for everybody to read, To find your answers please all log onto the City of Northport web site http://www.cityofnorthport.com/, Then click on ALL NEWS(bottom left) Then look for Waste Site 1/29/13 When this page opens click on the:- June 29, 2012 City Commission workshop The meeting was recorded, click on public responce!!!! or any other topic, you can then read the whole 50 pages MSW Consultants compiled its actually very interesting.

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William N. D'Onofrio (edit answer)
Do you think that perhaps one of the reasons for siting the facility on Toldeo Blade is just for the reasons you cite? It allows the best access from I-75 to import waste from outside of North Port. As I understand the issue that's the only way the economics work in favor of such a facility; waste needs to be brought in from outside of the city.

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Patricia Pearce-Schmitt (edit answer)
I cannot believe how cagey the city of North Port is concerning this waste transfer station. There was one little blurb in the North Port Sun on 1/28/13 concerning the meeting the following day to discuss the location of this station. The other press that this topic was given concerend the money that would be saved and the reduction of the wear and tear on the garbabe trucks not having to travel so far to empty their loads. That was most certainly a good way to put a positive spin on the issue. What I would like to know was how were the 20 orignal sites scaled down to 5, all within a mile of one another, and also located no where near any places where these commissioners reside. How convenient for them!!! I, however, reside in Cedar Grove, (which pays an annual fee to the Woodlands Master Plan) and this location proposal would indeed impede my quality of life. In addition to the increased traffic of the trucks and the loud noise they will make, there will be birds flying over the site, rodents multiplying rapidly, smells entering the air that will travel with the wind to areas far removed from the site. One of the very best reasons for living in North Port is the clean air quality, which is more than beneficial to maintain, rather than saving a few hundred thousand dollars a year in the grand scheme of things. By placing this transfer site in a populated area, we will not see any continued growth here if this plan should go through. On a personal level, my son and daughter-in-law, currently reside in Lakeside Plantation, they have a two year old who was born 10 1/2 weeks premature, his lungs were not fully developed at birth so he is constantly plagued with respiratory issues, if this station is located on one of these five sites they will have to move, which will present a severe hardship. I am sure that my grandson is not the only person residing in this area with such problems. I will beg, plead or do whatever it takes to change these proposed sites. We all need to stand together and present a strong front to challenge this proposal.

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Luis Mendoza (edit answer)
Our committee put this meeting together in three days and as you can see every person there was on our side. She we are together and will continue on our efforts to mobilize more residents to join us. Your family will not have to moved on this account. I think we will WIN this!!!!!

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Elisabetta (edit answer)
I have just attended a meeting of concerned homeowners from Cypress Falls, Lakeside Plantation (Townes & Villas) & Bobcat Village. I is very apparent that none of the homeowners agrees with this project, they categorically reject it. We as homeoowners bought in North Port for the residential value it offered & the promise that this residential area would attract a lot of new developpement such as a mega shopping center, hotels & other like business, which would increase the value of our properties. It was menioned that this waste station would generate approx 200 to 300,000 $, but did not take into consideration the loss in our property evaluation. When prospective buyers will see that their is a waste transfer station in our back yard as per the proposed sites, noone will want to buy our homes. Will the city be prepared to lower our taxes when this happens. The added revenue does not begin to compare to the quality of life that we will lose. It is commendable to try & lower our trash costs, but not to the decrement of its citizens. Instead of spending more money on studies for something noone wants, please put the effort in attaracting the kind of business like tourists, travel, & entertaunment sites that we lack & that would generate more than 200 or 300,000. This cover the costs of any increase in our waste disposal costs. All the citizens of North Port should have been advised by letter that such a major project was even being considered. I have gotten notices for other insignificant things in the mail, but I only heard about this yesterday. I never got any notices about the meetings taking place at city hall. I heard that only 6 residents attened the meeting of Jan 29. Had everyone been notified, you would have had a chance to hear the opinions of the citizens you represent. THIS PROJECT MUST STOP IMMEDIATELY!

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Luis Mendoza (edit answer)
If the city does not keep you informed, we will. Send email to mendllm2@comcast.net and ID yourself. We are putting together an email group list of all residents interested in getting feedback/info on this and other issues affecting our community.

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Elisabetta (edit answer)
mendllm2@comcast.net Hi Luis, I was at the Cypress Falls meeting & I live in the Townes at Lakeside Plantation. I had already added my email address to the city, but please add it also on your mailing list so that I will be sure to get all the news. Thank you for doing this and I hope that our voices will be heard.Please advise me if there is anything we can do to stop this from arriving on Toledo Blade. Is there another petition that I have to sign besides the one online.

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Gail Volk (edit answer)
As a full-time resident of North Port and having just come from a local meeting regarding this topic I must say that I adamantly OPPOSE the proposal to put a Waste Transfer Station in any of the five locations on/ around the Toledo Blade area. Every homeowner from The Woodlands, Cypress Falls and Bobcat Trail who attended this meeting were in agreement that these are the worst possible sites the commission could consider. The city of North Port is not looking out for the residents or the businesses of this area...as well as not considering the schools and the hospital and medical centers that line this part of Toledo Blade. We were told by the waste management rep, that came to discuss the proposal, that these sites were chosen because TOLEDO BLADE and PRICE is the center of North Port...well why in the sake of sensibility would any one ever put a Waste Transfer station smack in the center...the heart of a city...and by the way the reason they gave for not considering a parcel of land further down behind 75 was because...people traveling on 75 would be able to see it and would be less likely to want to live or open businesses there...well they got that right...so where does that leave the rest of us who already own houses here...we certainly won't be able to sell them...our home values will plummet if this goes through...and I for one can't afford to lose any more equity in my house. I would encourage each and every person on this discussion board to inform your neighbors and have your voice heard...so many people are in the dark about this...I also ask the members of the commission to rethink the negative impact that this will have on the future growth to our great town.

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Drop the idea and just keep driving to the County dump. If you are bound and determined to put in a transfer station put it next to the city commissioners homes, and let them put up with the smell that their constituents would have to contend with on a nice 90 degree summer day!

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ramon mendieta (edit answer)
I’d like to say I support the concept of a waste transfer station. I think it would help us to create a more efficient system to transfer our trash to the landfill. But I would like to echo the sentiments of others that the possible locations of the transfer station are ill suited to the economic development plans for the City. We have a scarcity of commercial areas in the City. It would seem unwise that the transfer station would occupy potentially valuable commercial property. I have not read the siting study but at the presentation it seems HDR performed a reasonable analysis to identify candidate locations for the site. Unfortunately the City’s layout necessities that other more qualitative attributes be considered. It seems that the City would have an opportunity to use available land in the SW of the city in the area of raintree/Orlando blvd/ veterans/ east of I-75. Siting the transfer station here would allow access to 75 through a predominantly non-residential corridor (i.e. veterans and kings highway) and would not affect potential commercial development on Toledo blade blvd. I suggest the City look at aggregating escheated lots or purchasing lots, outright, in the manner that was done for Atwater Elementary school and Atwater Park. In no way am I advocating using eminent domain or some “murdock village” scenario to accomplish. Using our “abundant” residential property would reduce the inventory of residential lots, reduce the amount of linear feet of roads in the City (vacating of plats, etc..), and would place activity away from commercial and residential properties. There is plenty of property to create sufficient buffers allowing for adequate screening. Also the available land allows for a development of ancillary developments (environmental park concept). Utility services would have to be brought into these areas, but there are lines in place in proximity. Acquiring land, vacating plats, re-zoning, utilities will drive the cost of the project higher but I think the City would be doing a great service to the residents by acting as a “developer” in underutilized areas of the City. While still maintaining our core commercial areas free from a stigmatized activity. There is a reason the transfer station is on the edge of the City of Venice. Because North Port was so poorly planned, the opportunity costs of a project are as important as actual project costs. I believe the City would be compounding the problem of attracting businesses and residents to North Port by siting the transfer station within or near the Toledo Blade Core.

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Votem Out (edit answer)
Someone with needs to step up and organize a protest to get local media involved. If 300+ residents showed up for the meeting held earlier today then surely we can make some waves and show these people we mean business. WE MUST GET CITY OFFICIALS ON RECORD STATING THIER POSITION AS IT RELATES TO THIS HORRENDOUS PLAN. Those supporting this plan must be identified!!!

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Votem Out (edit answer)
REMEMBER: Downtown Sarasota small business owners were successful in getting parking meters removed from in front of their stores!! You CAN fight City Hall if you want it bad enough.

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anthony treadwell (edit answer)
Hi, If you were at the meeting on Tuesday at Cypress Falls Ms Bramble was asked in front of over 150 people, would Northport take waste from other Citys: Answer NO, please go to the city web site, look up:- June 29, 2012 City Commission workshop, move the meeting onto 1:17 minutes and listen, then get back to me.

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Maureen (edit answer)
At yesterdays meeting Monica Bramble was asked the question "Would Northport take garbage from other areas? ie Port Charlotte etc. Her answer was NO. In front of over 150 people However, at the Northport Commissioners Meeting which is recorded and free to view she was asked the same question, only then the answer was YES!!!! Go to the presentation and drag the time bar to 1 hour 18 minutes, you will hear the question and her answer. Please don't take my word for it, it's there to see. Please don't rely on her taking back our feelings to the City we must keep up the pressure to have this lunacy stopped and any plans must be removed from the table for now and in the future. The meeting at Cypress Falls was a great platform and credit to those who organised it, well done!!! Please, please sign up to the "Not in my Neighborhood" and spread the word, the more support we get the more influence we have. Also see the article in the Sun by Drew Winchester.

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Luis Mendoza (edit answer)
As posive as my feelings were coming out of our meeting, yes, Maureen, we will keep the pressure on until they realize that we mean and stand by our battle cry "Not in our Neighborhood". We will be trying to get as many signatures as we can before the next commissioner's meeting. Will post the date and time when we get it.

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anthony treadwell (edit answer)
The meeting held at Cypress Falls yesterday proves the point, nobody would like this near them, in just a couple of hours notice nearly 200 people turned up to listen what the City had to say about this, a signed petition with 200 sigtatures is now up and running, Just think, how many people know about this!! how many know tha facts!!. Just think if everybody in Northport never mind these few people who at a couple hours notice made time to get the facts, please everybody tell anybody you know, if they dont like it sign up, ask Cypress Falls.

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Amy Barnes Jerla (edit answer)
I think these sites are to close to residential areas. Why are these sites all at this end of North Port. Whose to say once we get a solid waste transfer station are we going to get a land fill after that. If its that costly for the city for transferring , maybe they should think of going with waste management like all our surrounding cities. This area has a lot of opportunity for business growth. You have some businesses there, schools and the Sarasota Memorial ER isn't that far from there. I say NO NO NO to all.

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Samuel Moore (edit answer)
I do not believe any of the 5 sites being considered are acceptable. Large trucks are needed to haul the waste from the transfer station to the landfill and to haul out recyclables if a recycling center is built. The truck traffic on Price either way from Toledo Blade would be horrendous for the retail area, school and homes. The sites along I-75 would have the advantage of easy access to the Interstate, but would be near a school and the gateway to a lot of residential areas. Recycling centers and transfer stations should be located in current industrial zoned areas, and not areas needing rezoning. I have 40 years experience in engineering from both the governmental and private consulting side, and I can assure you that transfer stations should not be located near residential areas due to unavoidable odors and property value depreciation. Site preferred are at the waste water treatment plant or manufacturing sites where operations are expected. If the City is concerned about it's image and how the entrance from the Interstate appears to visitors and developers it will not put facilities like this in areas where they are seen and smelled. That includes retail and residential areas.

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Bill Richardson (edit answer)
I just watched the presentation that Ms. Bramble made to the North Port commissioners. When talking to us yesterday she said they would only take waste from North Port. She obviously lied, as she told the commission when asked ,that they WOULD accept waste from other counties. Now we know why people feel they can't trust their Government. She should resign her position for lying to over 200 taxpayers. Watch the presentation 1hr 17 min into it.

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anthony treadwell (edit answer)
Bill im so glad people are eventually looking at the facts, the real name for this project is a single stream recycle business, Its know as a MRF. Material Recovery Facilities nothing to do with a Transfer Station. Please read the Feasibility study on the same page you viewed Ms Bramble, At that meeting thats why I kept asking what actually is an Environmental Park!!!

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First I think there is possible merit to having our own transfer station. Any transfer station must make both economic sense and not adversely effect quality of life for the citizens. I personally think the suggested sites are all better suited for commercial development. For anyone who is unclear on where these sites are please see links below (site is outlined in red): 1) http://ags.scgov.net/SCPAexternal/?search=0960-00-1001&slayer=0&exprnum=0&showdatagrid=false I cannot understand for the life of me why you would have this prime real estate used for this purpose. Get off the highway and this welcomes you to North Port? 2)http://ags.scgov.net/SCPAexternal/?search=1117-00-1100&slayer=0&exprnum=0&showdatagrid=false Again, prime land for commercial development in an established activity center. 3)http://ags.scgov.net/SCPAexternal/?search=0984-03-0010&slayer=0&exprnum=0&showdatagrid=false Two parcels involved in this location but both significantly smaller than other proposed sites. Seems like you would be cramming the facility into a location that is better suited to commercial / light industrial 4)http://ags.scgov.net/SCPAexternal/?search=1094-00-3300&slayer=0&exprnum=0&showdatagrid=false Perhaps the least impact on residential development but also seems to be land that would be better suited to residential developments. What effect would the transfer station have on desirability of adjoining land for commercial development? 5)http://ags.scgov.net/SCPAexternal/?search=1094-00-3300&slayer=0&exprnum=0&showdatagrid=false Virtually identical to #4 I really cannot be in favor of any of the recommended sites. Forced to choose I would choose 1094-00-3200. The City of North Port must realize that people move here not only for affordable housing but many move here for the quiet suburban environment. Endless crossroads throughout neighborhoods of strip malls and development should be mistakes of the past.

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Thomas Jerla Sr (edit answer)
I would like to know where the petition is and how do I sign it ? Who made the decision on these 5 sites and what gives them the right to choose these sites. What happen to LET's VOTE ON IT sounds like this is a Lets not tell anyone and push this thru . These sites are not acceptable . I understand that time is running out and they will make a choice without anyone's input, Is this Legal. I have an Idea let's all get off our computers and go pickit City Hall before it's to Late. NOT IN MY BACKYARD.

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Amy Barnes Jerla (edit answer)
I am so sick of feeling that this part of North Port is really not North Port. I always tell friends I live in the suburbs of North Port the part nobody cares about. Our roads are a disgrace I feel the city does not enforce city codes anymore and now to have this solid waste DUMPED on us. If this area Toledo Blade and Price Blvd is considered the center of the city then why isn't CITY HALL at this area. I thought this area was where they wanted to build a hospital in the future. This area has a lot of potential and to put this DUMP here I don't think so. I know if this goes thru as planned I will make sure I will not vote for any of the Commissioners running this City. I think WE THE PEOPLE should decide what we want.

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Jerry Mason (edit answer)
I was just made aware of this initiative yesterday and I find it appalling. Why the City of Northport would even consider placing a waste transfer station in areas is beyond comprehension. These are areas where a great deal of capital has already been invested in the infrastructure to promote residential and business growth. They are areas where families live, work, and play. And you want to permit a trash plant to be planted there so we will have to deal with rats, obnoxious smells, and the dirt and noise of large trash trucks moving in and out of the plant as they slowly destroy the roadway? Has anyone really conducted a study to see what the true price of installing this plant will be? I have seen these initiatives in other cities and if they are successful, you can expect that we will be taking the trash from other counties (in the name of being profitable) and soliciting similar types of businesses to build in this area of North Port. As a home owner, I am adamantly opposed to this proposal. We need to voice our opinions to stop it before it goes any further. Log on and let them know how you feel. The time is now! Since we have been promised a transparent government process by the leaders of North Port, I expect them to provide adequate public notice of the next meeting to discuss this issue so concerned citizens can attend. Given the short notice for the last meeting, please spread the word if/when you hear about the next one.

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Marilyn Burysz (edit answer)
My home off Toledo Blade has lost about 40% of its value since I purchased it in 2007, and now the city wants to build a solid waste transfer station that will reduce my home's value further! Where are enlightened developments that will add prestige to the city of North Port? Why should the city want to become a waste dumping site for the region?

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Maureen (edit answer)
So according to yesterdays Northport Sun Ms Bramble has changed her tale again, we're not going to accept waste from Sarasota County (yet) no mention about dropping Charlotte or De Soto County though!!!! Don't believe a word of it. Please keep lobbying our commissioners and hopefully they will see common sense prevail. Regardless of what waste is managed there it must not be on or around the Toledo Blade corridor for the sake of future development we the citizens of Northport need. Public support is growing and the petitions are going well too.

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Elisabetta (edit answer)
URGENT Does anyone know about this & what is about: Commission Special Meeting Date: 2/11/2013 1:00 PM Location: City Chambers 4970 City Hall Boulevard North Port, Florida 34286

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